{"id":2431,"date":"2023-10-10T21:45:00","date_gmt":"2023-10-11T00:45:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/?p=2431"},"modified":"2025-02-04T12:50:00","modified_gmt":"2025-02-04T15:50:00","slug":"pele-messi-in-finals-2023","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/index.php\/2023\/10\/10\/pele-messi-in-finals-2023\/","title":{"rendered":"Pel\u00e9 and Messi in finals"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_counters\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/lang\/pt\/share-small.png\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top:2px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_c=new Array(\"twitter\",\"facebook_like\",\"facebook_send\",\"pinterest\",\"email\",\"print\",\"linkedin\");var hupso_counters_lang = \"pt_BR\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_twitter_via=\"blogdootavio\";var hupso_url_c=\"\";var hupso_title_c=\"Pel%C3%A9%20and%20Messi%20in%20finals\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/counters.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">This is an updated version of a <a href=\"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/index.php\/2016\/06\/27\/pele-messi-finals\/\">previous post<\/a>, in which I compared finals perfimances of the two greatest football players in the history of the game: Pel\u00e9 and Messi. I will follow the same criteria as before. Thus, despite disagreeing with the anachronic revisionism of simply disregarding hundreds of Pel\u00e9\u2019s goals (<a href=\"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/index.php\/2019\/04\/20\/pele-still-the-greatest\/\">click here and read the topic \u201cBecause he did score more than 1000 goals<\/a>), I shall only count here the following official tournaments and its decisive game: Copa del Rey, Spanish Super Cup, French Super Cup, Leagues Cup, UEFA Super Cup, Champion\u2019s League, FIFA World Club Cub, Copa America, CONMEBOL &#8211; UEFA Cup of Champions and World Cup, for Messi; Ta\u00e7a Brasil (Brazilian championship), Libertadores (South-American Championship), Intercontinental Cup, and World Cup, for the Brazilian (the only Copa America he participated occurred in a round-robin format). In the tournaments with two legged finals, both games will be featured (and a third rubber match, like it used to happen back in the 60\u2019s).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>PEL\u00c9 (champions in bold)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>1958 World Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">06\/29\/1958 \u2013\u00a0 Sweden 2 x 5 <strong>Brazil <\/strong>\u2013 Pel\u00e9 (2 goals) \u2013 At 17 years old, Pel\u00e9 won and scored 2 goals in the first final he ever played.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>1959 Ta\u00e7a Brasil<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">12\/10\/1959 \u2013 Santos 2 x 3 Bahia \u2013\u00a0 Pel\u00e9 (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">12\/30\/1959 \u2013 <strong>Bahia<\/strong> 0 x 2 Santos \u2013 Pel\u00e9 (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Pel\u00e9 did not play in the last game won by Bahia, when the later won the first ever Brazilian title..<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>1961 Ta\u00e7a Brasil<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">12\/22\/1961 \u2013 Bahia 1 x 1 Santos.\u00a0 Pel\u00e9 did not score (this area will be empty when this happens from now on).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">12\/27\/1961 \u2013 <strong>Santos<\/strong> 5 x 1 Bahia \u2013 Pel\u00e9 (3 goals)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>1962 Copa Libertadores<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Pel\u00e9 did not play the first two games.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/30\/1962 \u2013 <strong>Santos<\/strong> 3 x 0 Pe\u00f1arol (2 goals)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>1962 Ta\u00e7a Intercontinental de Clubes<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">09\/\/19\/1962 Santos 3 x 2 Benfica \u2013 Pel\u00e9 (2 goals).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">10\/11\/1962 \u2013 Benfica 2 x 5 <strong>Santos <\/strong>\u2013 Pel\u00e9 (3 goals)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>1962 Ta\u00e7a Brasil<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">03\/\/19\/1963 \u2013 Santos 4 x 3 Botafogo<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">03\/31\/1963 \u2013 Botafogo 3 x 1 Santos<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">04\/02\/1963 \u2013 Botafogo 0 x 5 <strong>Santos<\/strong> \u2013 Pel\u00e9 (2 goals)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>1963 Copa Libertadores<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">09\/04\/1963 Santos 3 x 2 Boca Juniors<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">09\/11\/1963 Boca Jrs. 1 x 2 <strong>Santos<\/strong> \u2013 Pel\u00e9 (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>1963 Ta\u00e7a Brasil<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">01\/25\/1964 Santos 6 x 0 Bahia\u2013 Pel\u00e9 (2 goals)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">01\/28\/1964 Bahia 0 x 2 <strong>Santos<\/strong> \u2013 Pel\u00e9 (2 goals).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>1963 Ta\u00e7a Intercontinental de Clubes<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">11\/14\/1963 \u2013 Milan 4 x 2 <strong>Santos<\/strong> (na It\u00e1lia) \u2013 Pel\u00e9 (2 goals).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Pel\u00e9 did not play the last two games, when Santos won the title.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>1964 Ta\u00e7a Brasil<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">12\/16\/1964 \u2013 Santos 4 x 0 Flamengo \u2013 Pel\u00e9 (3 goals)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">12\/19\/1964 Flamengo 0 x 0 <strong>Santos<\/strong> \u2013 the only last decisive game in which Pel\u00e9 failed to score!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>1965 Ta\u00e7a Brasil<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">12\/01\/1965 \u2013 Santos 5 x 1 Vasco<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">12\/08\/1965 \u2013 Vasco 0 x 1 <strong>Santos<\/strong> \u2013 Pel\u00e9 (1 goal).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>1966 Ta\u00e7a Brasil<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">11\/30\/1966 \u2013 Cruzeiro 6 x 2 Santos<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">12\/07\/1966 \u2013 Santos 2 x 3 <strong>Cruzeiro<\/strong>. Pel\u00e9 (1 goal). At 26 years old, Pel\u00e9 lost his first and only final when on field!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>1970 World Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">06\/21\/1970 \u2013 <strong>Brazil<\/strong> 4 x 1 Italy -Pel\u00e9 (1 goal).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>SUMMARY <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">14 finals<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">12 finals won (85.71%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">2 finals lost (14.29%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">23 games<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">17 wins (73.91%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">1 draw (4.34%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">5 losses (21.73%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Goals for \u2013 69 (3 per game)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Goals against \u2013 35 (1.52 per game)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Total goals \u00a0\u2013\u00a0 104 (4.52 per game)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Pel\u00e9\u2019s goals \u2013 29 gols, in a 1.26 average. 42.02% of his team\u2019s goals and 27.88% of total goals scored.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Hat-tricks \u2013 3 (13.04%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Games with at least 2 goals \u2013 10 (43.47%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Games with at least 1 goal \u2013 16 (69.56%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Games without scoring \u2013 7 (30.43%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>MESSI (champions in bold)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2006 Spanish Super Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/\/17\/2006 \u2013 Espanyol 0 x 1 Barcelona. Messi did not score (this area will be empty when this happens from now on).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/20\/2006 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 3 x 0 Espanyol. At 19 years old, Messi won his first final when on field in the decisive game.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2006 European Super Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/25\/2006 \u2013 Barcelona 0 x 3 <strong>Sevilla <\/strong>\u2013 At 19 years old, Messi lost his first final when on field in the decisive game.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2007 Copa America<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">07\/15\/2007 Argentina 0 x 3 <strong>Brazil<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2009 Copa del Rey<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">05\/\/132009 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 4 x 1 Athletic Bilbao \u2013 Messi (1 goal) \u00a0&#8211; At 22 years old, Messi score his first goal in a final.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2009 Champion\u2019s League<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">05\/27\/2009 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 2 x 0 Manchester United \u2013 Messi (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2009 Spanish Super Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Messi did not play the first game.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/23\/2009 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 3 x 0 Athletic \u2013 Messi (2 goals)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2009 European Super Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/28\/2009 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 1 x 0 Shakhtar Donetsk<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2009 Club World Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">12\/19\/2009 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 2 x 1 Estudiantes \u2013 Messi (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2010 Spanish Super Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/14\/2010 \u2013 Sevilla 3 x 1 Barcelona<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/21\/2010 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 4 x 0 Sevilla \u2013 Messi (3 goals)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2011 Copa del Rey<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">04\/20\/2011 \u2013 Barcelona 0 x 1 <strong>Real Madrid<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2011 Champion\u2019s League<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">05\/28\/2011 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 3 x 1 Manchester United \u2013 Messi (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2011 Spanish Super Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/14\/2011 \u2013 Real Madrid 2 x 2 Barcelona \u2013 Messi (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/17\/2011 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 3 x 2 Real Madrid \u2013 Messi (2 goals)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2011 European Super Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/16\/2011 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona <\/strong>2 x 0 Porto \u2013 Messi (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2011 Club World Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">12\/18\/2011 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 4 x 0 Santos \u2013 Messi (2 goals)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2012 Copa del Rey<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">05\/25\/2012 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona <\/strong>3 x 0 Athletic Bilbao \u2013 Messi (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2012 Spanish Super Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/23\/2012 \u2013 Barcelona 3 x\u00a0 2 Real Madrid \u2013 Messi (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/29\/2012 \u2013 <strong>Real Madrid<\/strong> 2\u00a0 x 1 Barcelona \u2013 Messi (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2013 Spanish Super Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/21\/2012 \u2013 Atl\u00e9tico de Madrid 1 x 1 Barcelona<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/28\/2012 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 0 x 0 Atl\u00e9tico de Madrid<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2014 Copa del Rey<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">04\/16\/2014 \u2013 Barcelona 1 x 2 <strong>Real Madrid<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2014 World Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">07\/13\/2014 Argentina 0 x 1 <strong>Germany<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2015 Copa del Rey<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">05\/30\/2015 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 3 x 1 Athletic Bilbao \u2013 Messi (2 goals)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2015 Champion\u2019s League<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">06\/06\/2015 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 3 x 1 Juventus<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2015 Copa America<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">07\/04\/2015 <strong>Chile<\/strong> 0 (4) x 0 (1) Argentina<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2015 European Super Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/11\/2015 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 5 x 4 Sevilla \u2013 Messi (2 goals)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2015 Spanish Super Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/14\/2015 \u2013 Athletic Bilbao 4 x 0 Barcelona<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/17\/2015 \u2013 Barcelona 1 x 1 <strong>Athletic Bilbao<\/strong> \u2013 Messi (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2015 Club World Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">12\/20\/2015 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 3 x 0 River Plate \u2013 Messi (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2016 Copa del Rey <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">05\/23\/2016 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona <\/strong>2 x 0 Sevilla<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2016 Copa America<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">06\/26\/2016 \u2013 <strong>Chile<\/strong> 0 (4) x 0 (2) Argentina.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2016 Spanish Super Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/14\/2016 \u2013 Sevilla 0 x 2 <strong>Barcelona\u00a0 <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/17\/2016 \u2013 Barcelona 3 x\u00a0 0 Sevilla \u2013 Messi (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u00a02017 Copa del Rey<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">05\/27\/2017 \u2013 Barcelona 3 &#8211; 1 Alaves \u2013 Messi (1\u00a0 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2017 Spanish Super Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/13\/2017 \u2013 Barcelona 1 x 3 Real Madrid \u2013 Messi (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/16\/2017 \u2013 <strong>Real Madrid<\/strong> 2 x 0 Barcelona<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2018 Copa del Rey<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">04\/21\/2018 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 5 x 0 Sevilla \u2013 Messi (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2018 Spanish Super Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">08\/12\/2018 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 2 x 1 Sevilla<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2019 Copa del Rey<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">05\/25\/2019 \u2013 <strong>Valencia<\/strong> 2 x 1 Barcelona \u2013 Messi (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2021 Spanish Super Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">01\/17\/2021 \u2013 <strong>Athletic Bilbao<\/strong> 3 x 2 Barcelona<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2021 Copa del Rey<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">04\/17\/2021 \u2013 <strong>Barcelona<\/strong> 4 x 0 Athletic Bilbao \u2013 Messi (2 goals)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2021 Copa America <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">07\/10\/2021 \u2013 <strong>Argentina<\/strong> 1 x 0 Brazil<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>CONMEBOL &#8211; UEFA Cup of Champions <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">06\/01\/2022 \u2013 <strong>Argentina<\/strong> 3 x 0 Italy<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2022 \u00a0French Super Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">07\/31\/2022 \u2013 Paris Saint-Germain 4 x 0 FC Nantes \u2013 Messi (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2022 World Cup<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">12\/18\/2022 \u2013 <strong>Argentina<\/strong> 2 x 2 France\u00a0 (3 x 3 na prorroga\u00e7\u00e3o e 4 x 2 pen.) \u2013 Messi (2 goals). Goals scored in extra time do not count for awards, but I don\u2019t see a good explanation not to consider the goal he scored in the extra time of a World Cup Final. Therefore, here the 3 x 3 result with 2 goals from Messi will prevail in the statistics.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>2023 Leagues Cup <\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">0819\/\/2023 \u2013 Nashville 1 (9) x 1 (10) <strong>Inter Miami<\/strong> \u2013 Messi (1 goal)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>SUMMARY<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">40 finals<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">29 finals won (72.5%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">11 finals lost (27.5%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">48 games<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">28 wins (58.33%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">8 draws (16.66%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">12 losses (25%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Goals for \u2013 96 (2 per game)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Gols against \u00a0\u2013 52 (1.08 per game)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Total goals \u2013 148 (3.28 per game).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Messi\u2019 goals \u2013 35 goals \u2013 0.72 per game (36.45% % from his team\u2019s goals and 23.64% of of total goals scored<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Hat-Tricks \u2013 1 (2.08%).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Games with at least 2 goals \u2013 7 (14%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Games with at least 1 goal \u2013 26 (54%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Games without scoring \u2013 22 (45%)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">As expected, because of their immense talent, they both have impressive numbers. However, Pel\u00e9 was more regular in finals than Messi both in team and individual performance.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The Brazilian\u2019s teams won 85.71% of its finals against 72.5% by the Argentinian. Pel\u00e9\u2019s teams won more and lost less games (only one defeat in a decisive final match with \u201cO Rei\u201d on field).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Pel\u00e9 also has an edge in individual numbers. He had a goal average of 1.26 per game against 0.72 from Messi, besides, he has has scored in 69.56% of his finals games against 50% by the Argentinian. Furthermore, the Brazilian, incredibly, has not scored only once in a final decisive game (only final game or second leg match); the Argentinian, 18 times.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Likewise, Pel\u00e9 edges Messi with a small advantage in regard to the percentage of his team\u2019s goals (42.02 x 36.34%) and of total goals scored in those\u00a0 games (27.88% against 23.64%), a more fair comparison since more goals was scored in Pel\u00e9\u2019s era).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Lastly, graphics comparing both great players:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/PeleMessiteamsinfinals.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2424\" src=\"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/PeleMessiteamsinfinals.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"810\" height=\"361\" srcset=\"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/PeleMessiteamsinfinals.jpg 810w, https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/PeleMessiteamsinfinals-300x134.jpg 300w, https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/PeleMessiteamsinfinals-768x342.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 810px) 100vw, 810px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/PeleandMessiinfinals.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2423\" src=\"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/PeleandMessiinfinals.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"863\" height=\"342\" srcset=\"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/PeleandMessiinfinals.jpg 863w, https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/PeleandMessiinfinals-300x119.jpg 300w, https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/PeleandMessiinfinals-768x304.jpg 768w, https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/PeleandMessiinfinals-816x323.jpg 816w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 863px) 100vw, 863px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_counters\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/lang\/pt\/share-small.png\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top:2px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_c=new Array(\"twitter\",\"facebook_like\",\"facebook_send\",\"pinterest\",\"email\",\"print\",\"linkedin\");var hupso_counters_lang = \"pt_BR\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_twitter_via=\"blogdootavio\";var hupso_url_c=\"\";var hupso_title_c=\"Pel%C3%A9%20and%20Messi%20in%20finals\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/counters.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_counters\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/lang\/pt\/share-small.png\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top:2px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_c=new Array(\"twitter\",\"facebook_like\",\"facebook_send\",\"pinterest\",\"email\",\"print\",\"linkedin\");var hupso_counters_lang = \"pt_BR\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_twitter_via=\"blogdootavio\";var hupso_url_c=\"\";var hupso_title_c=\"Pel%C3%A9%20and%20Messi%20in%20finals\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/counters.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div><p>This is an updated version of a previous post, in which I compared finals perfimances of the two greatest football players in the history of the game: Pel\u00e9 and Messi. 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Thus, despite disagreeing with the anachronic revisionism of simply disregarding hundreds of Pel\u00e9\u2019s goals (click here and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_counters\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/lang\/pt\/share-small.png\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top:2px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_c=new Array(\"twitter\",\"facebook_like\",\"facebook_send\",\"pinterest\",\"email\",\"print\",\"linkedin\");var hupso_counters_lang = \"pt_BR\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_twitter_via=\"blogdootavio\";var hupso_url_c=\"\";var hupso_title_c=\"Pel%C3%A9%20and%20Messi%20in%20finals\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/counters.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":23,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[179],"tags":[78,3,2,42],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2431"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2431"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2431\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2742,"href":"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2431\/revisions\/2742"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/23"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2431"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2431"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/otaviopinto.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2431"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}